November 29, 2004

Mysterious comments

I am baffled by the comments that this older weblog entry is receiving.  As you can see, I am simply announcing that I moved some of my projects over to java.net.  Since then, it appears that a group of Indian students have not only misunderstood the point of that post, but are also maintaining the delusion that I am offering to provide ideas for Java projects that they could do for their final year exam (on what major or studies?  I have no idea).

The phrasing of the request is also quite rude, and even though English is obviously not their native language, they are most likely able to express themselves fluently in this language.  At any rate, it doesn't give a very good impression.

Also, none of them seem to have noticed that I haven't offered a single idea, but the presence of the comments seems to maintain this illusion.  Maybe I should just delete the comments once and for all.

Or can a fellow Indian reader shed some light on what's happening?

 

Posted by cedric at November 29, 2004 09:42 AM
Comments

The only thing I can come up with is if you google for "projects on java" with the quotes you're the second hit.

Doesn't explain why nobody bothers reading your actual post, though.

Posted by: Jonathan Ellis at November 29, 2004 10:13 AM

One of the funny thing is that one dude named "karthick" actually copy pasted, and just changed the name, the previous post by "sridhar" who posted his entry twice.

They also seem to share a lack of creativity in making such requests.

Posted by: Emmanuel Pirsch at November 29, 2004 10:21 AM

This is either a joke or those students are really really stupid. As an engineer with Indian roots (BS in India, MS in US), I can't imagine many CS students this stupid. I say just ignore them and delete their posts.

Posted by: at November 29, 2004 10:22 AM

*shocked*

I hope this is a group of people pulling a joke on you, else I'm getting scared of what will happen once they get out of school and projects get outsourced to them.
Talking about an extreme nightmare, explaining architectures and designs to them.....

Okay, you just ruined my good nightsleep cedric.
Thanks :-)

Posted by: at November 29, 2004 10:52 AM

You left too many jealous indian (WL Workshop) friends at BEA ;-) ...sounds a bad joke for me !

Hope those stupid guys won't polluate you Blog now !


Posted by: at November 29, 2004 10:52 AM

Looks like somebody wanting to give bad image to indian IT students. Maybe not a joke, but something more nasty.

I would consider it as a spam, and delete that crap.

Posted by: coward at November 29, 2004 11:57 AM

Maybe Rick Ross could hire them to help NASA ?

Posted by: Shrikar Vantaraseeramanabatamnospam at November 29, 2004 12:06 PM

I Request you to please send me some java project title :)

Posted by: Sam AA at November 29, 2004 01:25 PM

It would be easy to dismiss this as a joke if it weren't for the real life experiences of working with Indians. Communication (in english) is horrible.

Care to test your theory? Just go to javaranch.com and read some of the posts there.

That wasn't a joke.

Posted by: Scott McKinney at November 29, 2004 01:49 PM

Word of mouth. Someone in class googles for "java project title" and end up in your blog and the next thing you know, he's giving out your url to his friends.

Posted by: at November 29, 2004 02:01 PM

i read them and at least half appeared to be an elaborate joke on the part of someone, latterly followed through by others. it's funny. laugh.

Posted by: at November 29, 2004 02:48 PM

While some of the later ones are obviously a joke, I wouldn't be at all surprised that some of the earlier ones were serious.

On blogs and email lists, the most inane questions are nearly always asked by Indian developers these days; they're even worse than the university freshmen asking for help with their homework.

Case in point on my own blog: an Indian poster asked me questions on what comes with WebLogic when you download it. Why on Earth ask me? Just because I was blogging about how WLS8.1sp3 had just come out doesn't make me BEA support staff.

Posted by: Robert Watkins at November 29, 2004 03:38 PM

AMAZING!!!

Posted by: boness at November 29, 2004 04:49 PM

You seem to have got quite famous in India. Expect to get mobbed at the airport with students asking you for the project titles whenever you decide to visit India.
I think some of the post may be serious as this is the time in India when the final projects are decided. So some of the students might be genuinely looking for some project ideas and came across your blog.

Posted by: gaurav at November 29, 2004 04:55 PM

Robert,

What comes with Jboss when you download it ?

Thanks.

Senthil Chandrasekharanshekhawat Vupputuri

Posted by: Senthil Chandrasekharanshekhawat Vupputuri at November 29, 2004 04:56 PM

Senthil, in my experience, all that comes with JBoss when you download it is pain and suffering.

Posted by: Robert Watkins at November 29, 2004 07:03 PM

Someone is playing a trick on you man. After reading your blog I am sure there are going to be atleast a million more people trying to enter such insane comments

Posted by: anand raman at November 30, 2004 01:30 AM

I wonder if a professor mentioned you or the site, and the class came away with a mistaken impression that they were to ask you for ideas.

Posted by: Michael Prescott at November 30, 2004 07:30 AM

Google has its dark side. Sometimes after you get spidered, you can't shake a particular subject -- now you're the "expert" on whatever ends up on the first page of results, whether it's Java project ideas, or backup software (like Joel seems to have become).

Regarding the Indian students -- I'm of the opinion that their IT people are now where the US market was in 1998. Anyone who can spell Java (or .NET or HTML) is being sucked up by giants like Tata Consultancy, and are being promoted as subject matter experts to work on outsourced projects. Once there, because they aren't as qualified as they were promised, they need a lot of hand-holding, and tend to emphasize process over the creation of working software.
YMMV.

Part of what makes their posts seem so rude is their word choice and sentence length. They often say "please provide", thinking they're being polite (they did use "please", after all), when really they come off as being very demanding because the sentences are so short. Plus, they're just being lazy. They obviously regard the Internet as some sort of Cliff's Notes.

Posted by: ChipH at November 30, 2004 08:35 AM

mister beust, please send all ur java projects to Abu.

mister rick ross say you expert. you must proof now.

-- abu

Posted by: Abu Denerfs-Chandravasataram at November 30, 2004 09:04 AM

Robert,

Could not find 'Pain' and 'Suffering' framework?!

Is it free Opensource project ?

maybe mister Bust can help me ?

Thx

Chandrasekharanshekhawat


Posted by: Senthil Chandrasekharanshekhawat Vupputuri at November 30, 2004 10:35 AM

mister bust,
i am abu father. pls provide ur java projects to my sun abu.

-- prabu


Posted by: Prabu at November 30, 2004 01:18 PM

H3LLO!!! PLS PROVIDE ALL UR JAVA PROJECTS.
THX,
Saeed Pranavanmohamnchandrabandravishnu.

Posted by: Pranavanmohamnchandrabandravishnu at November 30, 2004 07:39 PM

All yur Java projects belong to us.

Posted by: at November 30, 2004 09:06 PM

Well, I can say that I agree with Scott McKinney. Sometimes it's really difficult to work with people from India. It's not fair to say that all of them are bad, but when you have quantity, you lose quality.

Posted by: Stepan at December 1, 2004 07:34 AM

pls post more java project titles and koffi mugs on your web site.

Posted by: cupOfJava at December 1, 2004 08:10 AM

i like name seppuku, can i put it in title? sorry
this language is not so native as your
contribution to bea server and this and that oh otaku cedric.

forever your borin' friends at BEA.

Posted by: Frances Corain at December 1, 2004 09:59 AM

moi asso want mug---and I want big one and for free---asso where did you go diving thaksgiving?? thank you cedrix.

Posted by: Nicolai Bonaparte at December 1, 2004 10:09 AM

LOL.

I am from India. My first thought was that some students from India with horrible English are trying to mooch some free ideas out of you. Looking closely at this blog's comments, it is more likely that someone is playing pranks on you. Either that person is from India or knows Indians well. "Senthil Chandrasekharanshekhawat Vupputuri" is clearly a joke Id.

BTW, assuming these names are real, ALL of them would be from the Southern part of India. Case in point, the name "Saeed Pranavanmohamnchandrabandravishnu" is almost certainly impossible to come across in any part of India but if it had, it would be from the state of Andhra Pradesh.

Posted by: Texan Desi at December 2, 2004 10:31 AM

sorry sir,

my name is real. I'm from Jammu $ Kashmir, north part of india.

Chandrasekharanshekhawat is my nickname , easier for people to pronouce it correctly!

ChandrasekharanshekhawatchintalapatiDharmarajanKrishnan karupaiya is what I have on my passport :(

Posted by: ChandrasekharanshekhawatchintalapatiDharmarajanKrishnan karupaiya at December 2, 2004 11:43 AM

Yeah, it's pretty funny how blog entries can get hijacked. I posted a year ago about some issues a client was having with outsourced Yahoo! mail (http://www.mooreds.com/weblog/archives/000024.html). It somehow got out there and now has over 100 comments, some useful, some incoherent, and is the top result for google for 'Yahoo mail problems'. Random.

Kind of raises the issue--I have no trouble with folks using my blog as a forum to solve their problems, but at what point are comments unrelated enough to warrent deleting them?

Posted by: Dan Moore at December 2, 2004 09:47 PM

Cedric:

You do realize that ALL the entries from "Indian" students are spam ? Even places like the bileblog (which would be the last place to give advice of this nature) are full of this spam.

You also do realize that the names are made up and not really Indian ? (Aryan names are typicaly more like 'sweta', 'suvarna', 'arjen', 'kiran', 'rahul' etc).

By even considering this as real, you are really showing your ignorance. It's kinda shocking -- this is on the same level as someone posting "me chibky, eat flied lice" and you actually thinking that it was a real person.

Lastly, you do realize that English itself is descended from the language tree whose canonical example is PIA (proto-indo-aryan) also known as Sanskrit/Hindi ?

Posted by: at December 8, 2004 11:27 PM

what is going on here. Some students are asking just about project ideas or titles but you people are joking. India is super power in IT and it has a great brain asset.
do not remark any country.
Thanks

Posted by: jaihind at December 15, 2004 04:28 AM

ah, Cedric, with these comments I have a doubt.

Posted by: AidanRajapraiwaniSrinigathagatha at December 22, 2004 06:52 AM

sir,
please specify project titles on java for project.

Posted by: dinesh at January 3, 2005 03:38 PM

Please help me to select a good project in core java.

Posted by: shrushti at January 5, 2005 05:31 AM


RESPECTD SIR,
i just wanna say "i m 1 of them who posted u for the projects but now i m feelin i had done sumthing wrong
BECAUSE...
ITS NOT THE INDIAN STUDENTS FAULTS BUT ITS U....
REASONS:-
1.WHEN V SEARCH IN GOOGLE FOR "PROJECTS IN JAVA"
URS URL COMES ON TOP.THEN ITS NOT STUDENTS FAULT.
2.U DOES`NT HAV A CHECK ON U R MAILS{REGARDING THE TYPE OF QURIES}.

Posted by: abhishek at January 8, 2005 05:32 AM

Resp.Sir

I am studying MSc.Computer Science at
pravaranagar ,I have to develope a mini project in core java .
So I kindly request you send me some titles with specific information that I can develope my Educational projects effectively.

yours sincerly
Yogesh V Suryawanshi

Posted by: yogesh suryawanshi at January 29, 2005 02:51 AM

Resp.Sir

I am studying MSc.Computer Science at
pravaranagar ,I have to develope a mini project in core java .
So I kindly request you send me some titles with specific information that I can develope my Educational projects effectively.

yours sincerly
Yogesh V Suryawanshi

Posted by: yogesh suryawanshi at January 29, 2005 02:51 AM

Dear Sir,

I want to start a small software comapnay ,for that how to get new projects from non-computer industry based on JAVA,J2EE Concepts.what is link to search ? or what is the keyword to search ?

Posted by: SIVAKUMAR.R at February 14, 2005 05:04 AM

sir
i m in six sem of my mca
suggest some projects to make in jsp/servlets
i have to show in my college

Posted by: saurabh vig at March 15, 2005 10:22 PM

respected sir
i am student of B.E. final year computer engg.
i would like to develop major project in Java,jsp.
plz help me and kindly give me information about java,jsp projects.

thank you

Posted by: madhuraj yadav at April 9, 2005 12:59 AM

LOL, I was wondering about the same thing. The one from the widow was the funniest I thought. Good read! But am still baffled!

Posted by: casio at April 19, 2005 06:05 AM

I am stident of B.E. 8th sam Comp.Science Branch. I need a Project on java to be submitted to the college. pls provide the same.

Posted by: Pankaj Chawda at May 1, 2005 09:59 PM

u crazy fools ....cant u just see the comments above u b4 posting 1 ...how cud u guys do this...
u guys r giving a bad impression about a gr8 country rich in traditions ,heritage,culture and knowledge after all we indians r the guys who invented zero,and our vedic maths has everything these foreigners wud not hav even thought of ...how cud u guys play with the reputation of such a gr8 country...

Posted by: indian at May 5, 2005 09:48 PM

fine but need some labour.

Posted by: Matrika at June 26, 2005 03:58 AM

I need some project titles on J2ee.I'm final info-tech student

Posted by: Sivakarthick Rajan at July 21, 2005 10:22 AM

I am a final year computer science & engg. student.I need some project titles in Java,J2EE,Datamining etc.

Posted by: priyanka at July 23, 2005 10:51 PM

I need some project titles in J2EE along with some explanation for few projects immediately.

Posted by: NANDHINI at July 26, 2005 07:59 AM

I have a bridge over river Kwai (recently from Brooklyn, Nigeria). I require is that you open Suisse account for untraceable millions of dollars (from my dead uncle, you shall know). Please hastily open account and fly to Istanbul; we shall meet and discuss you Java project title before the bridge is destroyed by Axis. Your patience is of the essence.

Posted by: at July 26, 2005 12:14 PM

All your project titles are belong to us.

Someone set us up the testng.

Man, sorry Cedric, very funny stuff though.

Posted by: R.J. at July 26, 2005 02:31 PM

lmao! very funny :)
let's hope they were kidding

btw. I request some project titles :-D

cheers
effjay

Posted by: effjay at July 26, 2005 05:56 PM

Cedric,
I am a regular reader of your blog. I started laughing two days back and still have not stopped :-)

The funniest are those mails from somebody claiming to be your former colleagues.

Mohan

Posted by: Mohan Radhakrishnan at July 28, 2005 01:32 AM

respected sir,
i'm a 3rd year student in
comp sc engg. i would kindly request you to give me a project in java, considering my knowledge lavel is upto core java including jdbc.

Posted by: arun sastry at August 12, 2005 06:57 AM

Dear Sir,

I am from South America. I wonder if I may contract the work for suggesting Java Projects to India. :) I would be glad to contract that work from you.

Sincerely,

Soccer Head

Posted by: at August 20, 2005 01:06 AM

Hello friends,
I am B-Tech III year student. I want Project file report. If you have submitted any Project file
report. please send me on my E-mail address.
I will very thankful of your kind help.
Please send me as soon as possible.

Posted by: shiva at August 23, 2005 10:50 AM

I am B-Tech III year student. I need a java project with File report. Please send me as soon as possible.

Posted by: shiva at August 23, 2005 11:05 AM

I am a final year student of IT.So,please suggest me a project based on JAVA

Posted by: silpa at September 2, 2005 10:18 AM

hello sir
i like to know some project titles with some information about it, in java,java.net
i am a final year student form cs branch
sir plz consider soon as i have to submit first, project title

Posted by: aalok at September 3, 2005 01:54 AM

hello sir
i want to do my final project in java
wants to develop a messenger that connect yahoo,msn...
can u help me
plz
send me more ideas 4 projects
waiting 4 a positive reply
aa_6@rediffmail.com

Posted by: aman agarwal at September 20, 2005 02:31 PM

sir, i m a student of MCA Sem 5.
i need to submit a project in java for my minor project work.
please send me some ideas.

Posted by: neha at September 22, 2005 03:04 AM